well... as to this law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laken_Riley_Act - it is a very roundabout way of doing something. All any police officer would need to do is falsely accuse somebody. It's an invitation for police abuse. It's unconstitutional (assuming the constitution even applies to them). Why not just say ICE can deport anyone illegal or any unauthorized immigrant? Sounds like Jason P does not believe in following the laws. Under law, arrest and conviction are always separate stages. That is basic I would think. A huge, major aspect of law. The case needs to be proved. Until then, the person is just being held. In detention perhaps. The fact is that they are immigrants, but they are not here legally and if they commit a crime that is not a reason to trash our own system of law. You do not violate your own system of law, which is like letting the illegals win.
A better approach might be to make it easier to deport such immigrants simply because there is his fact that they are here illegally. They are not in their own country. They should be reported to their home country, not serve as a reason to start violating the US constitution by not giving them a full trial for crimes. Try them for the crime or send them back, and their home country would presumably take them. Also, I do not believe they may be "detained" at all. They aren't our people, right? They are not US citizens and they are not here legally, so US law does not apply. I think there is strong argument for this. This is not their country. Do you know any lawyers, Jason?
So, if they are in the wrong country, what is all this funny business about not giving them a trial? The US cannot have a law that "deports" anyone. None of this applies. There should be a special, internationally-supervised center where they can be detained. It should be wherever Ron DeSantis lives. Their home countries may be billed for some of the upkeep. They should be arrested as illegals under a special law. They are, I repeat, not US citizens. Admit that laws for internal persons (citizens) cannot be applied to external persons. The basic fact is the fact of two classes of person: US citizens and non-US citizens. The latter should be labeled as "externals," like foreign matter in a body. You don't give them a welcoming party. You activate your immune system. Or they could have something like a pink tag attached to one of their body parts. But that is not needed when in detention. And of course, once they are caught you have to detain or house or take care of them some way. What else can one do?The Constitutions was written for persons in the US, right? But not persons who we did not allow entry into the country. Was the Constitution written for persons not of the US? I don't think so. So then. WHAT are these non-US persons who are in the US? They are here improperly. What types of laws should apply to such persons? International law. What sorts of detention facilities should there be? International facilities. Who would have jurisdiction? It would be a great challenge for a US government. And this is the best our leadership can do? Apparently creative solutions to problems is not our specialty here in the US. This is the sort of law the present regime comes up with? Let's fu*ck with these immigrants????
I seriously think that pretty soon they will not WANT to come here. Pretty soon we might not want to be here, either. This is the best law we can devise? They must have had it pretty bad, you know. If they wanted to emigrate to the US. The problem dissolves. You and me will be leaving too. ha ha
Trump always just wants to abuse people and that is a very bad sign.
well... as to this law - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laken_Riley_Act - it is a very roundabout way of doing something. All any police officer would need to do is falsely accuse somebody. It's an invitation for police abuse. It's unconstitutional (assuming the constitution even applies to them). Why not just say ICE can deport anyone illegal or any unauthorized immigrant? Sounds like Jason P does not believe in following the laws. Under law, arrest and conviction are always separate stages. That is basic I would think. A huge, major aspect of law. The case needs to be proved. Until then, the person is just being held. In detention perhaps. The fact is that they are immigrants, but they are not here legally and if they commit a crime that is not a reason to trash our own system of law. You do not violate your own system of law, which is like letting the illegals win.
A better approach might be to make it easier to deport such immigrants simply because there is his fact that they are here illegally. They are not in their own country. They should be reported to their home country, not serve as a reason to start violating the US constitution by not giving them a full trial for crimes. Try them for the crime or send them back, and their home country would presumably take them. Also, I do not believe they may be "detained" at all. They aren't our people, right? They are not US citizens and they are not here legally, so US law does not apply. I think there is strong argument for this. This is not their country. Do you know any lawyers, Jason?
So, if they are in the wrong country, what is all this funny business about not giving them a trial? The US cannot have a law that "deports" anyone. None of this applies. There should be a special, internationally-supervised center where they can be detained. It should be wherever Ron DeSantis lives. Their home countries may be billed for some of the upkeep. They should be arrested as illegals under a special law. They are, I repeat, not US citizens. Admit that laws for internal persons (citizens) cannot be applied to external persons. The basic fact is the fact of two classes of person: US citizens and non-US citizens. The latter should be labeled as "externals," like foreign matter in a body. You don't give them a welcoming party. You activate your immune system. Or they could have something like a pink tag attached to one of their body parts. But that is not needed when in detention. And of course, once they are caught you have to detain or house or take care of them some way. What else can one do?The Constitutions was written for persons in the US, right? But not persons who we did not allow entry into the country. Was the Constitution written for persons not of the US? I don't think so. So then. WHAT are these non-US persons who are in the US? They are here improperly. What types of laws should apply to such persons? International law. What sorts of detention facilities should there be? International facilities. Who would have jurisdiction? It would be a great challenge for a US government. And this is the best our leadership can do? Apparently creative solutions to problems is not our specialty here in the US. This is the sort of law the present regime comes up with? Let's fu*ck with these immigrants????
I seriously think that pretty soon they will not WANT to come here. Pretty soon we might not want to be here, either. This is the best law we can devise? They must have had it pretty bad, you know. If they wanted to emigrate to the US. The problem dissolves. You and me will be leaving too. ha ha
Trump always just wants to abuse people and that is a very bad sign.